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Can a 3rd party prevent the closing of an approved Short Sale?

by Jarad 2 Comments

Question: Can a 3rd party, acting on behalf of a 2nd mortgagee prevent the closing of an approved Short Sale by refusing to accept the amount offered them by the 1st mortgagee?

Answer: – Yes they can… Many times mortgage companies will have 3rd party collection agencies deal with negotiating payoffs. If they don’t like the offer they don’t have to accept it. Sometimes they can very difficult to work with. They only way is to either give them what they want by handling it outside of closing or negotiate with them more until they decide to accept.

Filed Under: Short Sales Tagged With: short sale refusal

Taking Over Mortgage Subject To

by Jarad 2 Comments

Taking over Subject To

I’ve heard of taking over the mortgage subject to the existing loans, but how does it exactly work?

There are different meanings to the phrase “subject to”, such as a clause in a real estate agreement: “subject to buyer’s inspection”, “subject to partner’s approval”.

But in this particular scenario we are referring to a low to no money down, no credit strategy. For real estate investors, the most common use of the term “subject-to” refers to purchasing a property “subject to existing financing.” With this strategy you are leaving the existing financing in place and just taking over the original owner’s payments.

One thing we need to clarify is you are not assuming a loan. First of all, there are very few loans that are assumable any more and even if you find one that is, unless it was a non-qualifying loan, you would need to use your credit and qualify to assume it. Aside from that, even if you didn’t have to qualify, the rate may be higher than you would want anyway. So for clarification, you are not assuming anything. You as the buyer simply take over payments on the sellers existing mortgage and your name does not go on the loan. It will stay in the seller’s name.

It’s a strategy that is completely legal, in fact if anyone tells you it isn’t, ask them to explain line 203 on the HUD-1 form which says “Existing Loans Taken Subject To.” Anyone can make a private contract to buy or sell a property. You will have the deed in your name and the seller will still have the loan in theirs.

That being said, with any strategy, it is important you make sure you understand the state laws where you are investing. There are also specific things you need to include to make sure you do this properly and we will list those below.

“Subject to” Candidates

What types of sellers will be the best candidates for this type of arrangement? Essentially it comes down to motivation – it works for anyone who needs a quick solution because they are having financial difficulties and can’t cover mortgage payments or they are on the verge of having financial difficulties and just want out before it ruins their credit. This is why we focus on finding motivated sellers.

This can also be a good arrangement for someone who doesn’t need all the money right now and would rather receive payments with interest as an investment overtime, such as an individual looking to retire.

Benefits to the Buyer

  • There is no need to qualify or use your credit.
  • Everything is negotiable, including a flexible down payment if any.
  • Length, term, interest rate and payments are also negotiable.
  • There are no lender fees, or points which means minimal closing costs.
  • The transaction can be done quickly, in a matter of days.

Benefits to the Seller

  • They may get a higher sales price or more through compound interest overtime.
  • Monthly income and cash flow.
  • It’s usually a much better rate of return than a fund or money market account.
  • If the property is non-conforming, it’s an easy way to sell.
  • The transaction can be done quickly, in a matter of days.
  • Helps to build credit because the mortgage payment is being paid on time.

Seller Financing and “Subject To” Financing

Many sellers are hesitant initially to doing anything like “creative financing” or “seller financing” so you won’t want to phrase it that way. You will go through some basic qualifying questions to make sure you do in fact have a motivated seller, then a good question to ask would be, “Are you open to doing a rent to own type of scenario?”

People are more familiar with this concept and it doesn’t sound intrusive.

You can also ask, “How would you like me to take over payments so you can walk away from the burden and stress of these bills?”

You will get much better results simply by asking the right questions.

Whenever you can get seller financing, it’s some of the best money out there. Even if only 5% of owners are willing to work with you, those are the people we’re looking for. When you structure these types of deals, you really have no limitation on how many you can do. Your credit is never involved!

In addition, when people like and trust you, the higher these percentages will be, so keep that in mind and make sure you always focus on creating win-win deals. What do they need? How can you solve their problem? Not only will this help you move forward with confidence, these people we’ll sense you are there to actually help them!

Providing Options and Educating the Seller

The best way to discuss this with the seller is to provide options and educate them on the benefits. This can actually be really good for the seller especially if they don’t need all the cash right now.

As an example, something you can say is, “Would you accept an offer that would give you $1067 per month for the next 10 years?” You’ll want to show the monetary benefits so they can see the value of what they can make with compound interest overtime. It can really be a benefit to both parties. I’ll give you an example of how to do this.

First, provide options. One of the most effective ways to approach the seller is to give them 2 separate offers so they can see the difference. This way you can educate them at the same time.

For example, let’s say you had a homeowner who was willing to sell his property for 145K and his loan amount was 142K.

Here is a way you could approach the seller:

“I will give you two separate offers. The first one I will give you $145K, with $3000 cash upfront and take over your existing mortgage. The 2nd offer I will give you $150,000 ($5,000 more than your asking price) and instead of cash, I can give you a secured note for $8000 at an interest rate of 8%.

Let me show you both offers as investments. If you were to take the $3000 and put it in a CD that gave you 5% return, it would become about $4941 in ten years. The $8,000 secured note at 8% would become $17,757.”

“That’s more than 3 times as much as the first offer for the same period of time. I hope you’ll consider the second offer because it can work a lot better for both of us.”

Remember, either way you are offering to take over the first mortgage so you can arrange a “subject to” agreement.

If after doing your research you find the property has little or no equity, another approach to introduce a subject to arrangement is to say,

“Since you don’t have any equity in your house, it wouldn’t qualify for a straight cash purchase. However, another option we have is I can take over your payments until I resell the house. I don’t know how long that will take but I will tell you that it’s when I get paid, so I’m pretty motivated to sell it as quickly as possible! In the meantime, I’ll make the payments, and take care of maintenance and yard work until I sell the house. This way you can move on without anymore hassle or stress.”

In a scenario where there is little to no equity you will be looking at other options to determine if the deal can work for you. Obviously selling the property outright would yield little profit if any. However, you may be able to rent the property for more than the existing payments to create cash flow; then sell the property in the future. In many cases, a better option is to market the home as a lease option so you can collect an option deposit as well as more in rents and a higher purchase price. This will also allow you to get better tenants/buyers in the home instead of just renters.

First you mush research comparable rents and leases in the area to make sure the numbers pencil out. Once you find this is a good option and works for your circumstances, you can set up the deal accordingly. If it doesn’t, don’t hesitate to move on to better opportunities. The point is to be aware of the options available to you and make arrangements that will work best for both you and the seller.

As you discuss your offers and how you will take over the mortgage, here are a few things you can do to make sure it is a win-win scenario for you and the seller.

  • Explain that you will make payments on time and even a couple months in advance to begin with. This will repair and improve the seller’s credit.
  • You will run the payments through a title company or set us a new bank account with automatic withdrawal to ensure the payments are made on time and even early. (This is a must. There are so many scams out there where investors say they will make payments but never do. Then they put renters in the home, collect rent and never make payments.   Then they wonder why the lender is calling them threatening foreclosure. By telling the sellers you are willing to make sure payments are being made, will help you establish trust with them. Just make sure you do what you tell them you are going to do.)
  • You can have an attorney write everything up to make sure everyone is safe.
  • Since you don’t need to qualify or use your credit, this allows you do this type of deal quickly – within a few days, thus solving their problem quickly!

A couple more points that will be helpful for you:

  • As previously mentioned, there are scam artists out there that prey on people in bad circumstances so they can take advantage of them with no regard for what’s right, legal or moral. You usually hear about these cases on the news like everyone else. So you need to follow through and build trust with the seller.

In addition, have references or other documentation that can help them feel comfortable working with you. You may not need them, but have them ready. (This can include your real estate attorney, title company and applicable Business affiliations such as the Better Business Bureau or Chamber of Commerce if applicable.)

  • Also, you can be flexible with terms, such as offering to buy the property subject to the existing financing, for two years, and then pay them in full at the end of the two years.

This way you could structure a lease option or if repairs were needed, you would have up to two years to fix it, lease, sell, or obtain your own financing anytime during the two years.

Filed Under: Subject To Tagged With: subject to, subject to existing mortgage, subject to loan, subject to mortgage, taking over subject to

Which is better, short sale or deed in lieu?

by Jarad 2 Comments

Question: What is a Deed in Lieu? Which is better, short sale or deed in lieu? I am in So. California.
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Answer: – We explain what a Deed in Lieu of Foreclosure is in our free reports section. With a deed in lieu foreclosure you are giving the home back to the bank. By giving or deeding it back to the bank, the deed is considered full payment of the mortgage loan, so there cannot be a deficiency judgment. However, there are certain restrictions like all junior lien holders must be satisfied and there must be clear title. Although you’ll be avoiding a deficiency judgment, the bank will 1099 you for the deficient amount. This deficient amount is calculated by taking the difference between the fair market value (FMV) and the outstanding debt. As far as credit issues, a deed in lieu of foreclosure shows up as “Acquisition or Abandonment of Secured Property” and is very similar to an actual foreclosure.

A short sale on the other hand has fewer restrictions but is very similar in avoiding a deficiency judgment. You can ask the bank to satisfy the loan so it’s paid in full. You will be 1099 for the deficient amount. And for your credit, a short sale shows up as a “settled debt” which is very similar, however most credit experts believe a short sale is better on your credit report than a foreclosure or deed in lieu of foreclosure. I would have to agree…but it’s not by much. Any way you go, it’s going to be bad on your credit.

Filed Under: Deficiency Judgment / 1099, Options of Homeowners Tagged With: deed in lieu, deficiency judgment, short sale

Can I make a counter offer to the bank when doing a short sale?

by Jarad 2 Comments

Question: I made an offer to short sale a home. Now after all the months of waiting, bank couter offered my offer. Can I counter offer or do i have to just accept the price the bank wants for the short sale home?

Answer: -Absolutely…a lot of being successful in this business is your ability to negotiate. Your ability to negotiate and negotiate well literally will make you thousands more or cost you thousands. If they countered with a higher price, this means they believe the house is worth more than what you proposed in your offer. You will need to explain to the lender why you believe it’s not worth that and you’ll have to back it up with comps, repair costs, market conditions, pictures, etc. You may need to even ask for another BPO (Brokers Price Opinion). Now…if it’s only a few thousand dollars and your end buyer is all lined up and as it is you stand to make a large profit from it, you might want to consider just doing the deal and moving on to the next one. You don’t want to wait another 2 months before they accept your offer because you might lose your buyer.

Filed Under: Short Sales Tagged With: BPO, Brokers Price Opinion, short sale counter offer

What determines whether I receive a 1099-C or a deficiency judgment for the bank’s loss?

by Jarad 2 Comments

Question: If a non-primary residence in NY goes into foreclosure, what determines whether I receive a 1099-C or a deficiency judgment for the bank’s loss?

Answer: -A lot of times it just depends on the lender and the amount that’s deficient.  You really don’t have any control when your property forecloses.  If they believe you have some assets, they may file a judgment against you.

However, when you negotiate the short sale with the lender,  you can actually control what happens to the homeowner.  If you ask for a satisfaction which means “paid in full”, the lender gives up their rights to come after the borrower for a deficiency judgment which is really what you should be concerned about. They can still and most likely will issue the 1099-c for the homeowner. However, for most homeowners, form 982 will counteract that 1099. Just talk to your accountant about it.

 

Filed Under: Deficiency Judgment / 1099 Tagged With: 1099-C, deficiency judgment, Foreclosure

Summons in Arizona for a piece of property that was foreclosed on…now suing for deficient amount.

by Jarad 1 Comment

Question: Just got summons in Arizona for a piece of property that was foreclosed on and sold. The bank is suing us for the deficiency amount. Is there any way to fight this? We think we may have a defense because there was no public report for this property at time of sale.

Answer: – Yes, the bank does have the right to go after the homeowner for the deficient amount after the home has been through foreclosure.

Filed Under: Deficiency Judgment / 1099 Tagged With: arizona, deficiency judgment, Foreclosure

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